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Scientology's OT III (OT3)A Freezone FAQ |
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Scientology's OT III (OT3)A Freezone FAQ |
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Here are a few frequently asked questions by some people new to the freezone about OT III (OT3) and some answers:
1. I'm stuck around Clear on the Bridge, can I make it to OT III? 2. Do you charge as much as the Church of Scientology? 3. Can I trust the Freezone to deliver Standard Tech to OT III? 4. I'm in a condition of Doubt about it all, can you help? 5. How can you deliver up to OT III if the material is secret? 6. Won't the Church of Scientology declare me an SP if I do OT III in the Freezone? 7. I've seen some weird stuff on the net about OT III, what can you say about that? 8. Surely the volcano list in OT III is wrong? 9. The 75 million years ago date in the OT III materials must be wrong... 10. I read the OT III materials and didn't drop dead like Hubbard implied... |
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1. I'm stuck around Clear on the Bridge, can I make it to OT III?
Short answer = yes! I did. The longer answer is that there are all sorts of reasons why people come to the Freezone. One of the more common reasons is that the Church of Scientology has messed people up badly around the area of Clear: Messed up DCSI or CCRD, making the runway to OT III too long (or seemingly never ending), outright refusal to accept that someone is Clear when the evidence is to the contrary, refusal to let people onto the OT levels (for all sorts of arbitrary reasons) and probably more that escape my attention just now. The fact is that the Freezone has had to become rather good at picking up the pieces. The fact that we can and do succeed is very nicely shown on our success stories pages, in particular the ones about OT1 (OT I), OT2 (OT II) and OT3 (OT III) |
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2. Do you charge as much as the Church of Scientology?
No! Freezone auditors do charge and do so at a rate adequate to make what they do viable, so it is fair to say we're not giving it away. However our costs are no where near what the Church of Scientology charges. A guide to the sorts of prices you might typically encounter in the Freezone (in the West at least) is given on our cost to go Clear (and beyond) page |
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3. Can I trust the Freezone to deliver Standard Tech to OT III?
The honest answer is no, not entirely. But nor can you trust the official Church of Scientology either. Your best guarantee, as indeed it has always been, is your own knowledge of the tech. Get trained! You should be aware that there are all sorts of groups out there. Some are better than others. This particular group is probably the most "conservative" (in relation to standard tech) of the lot. We have fought long to achieve and maintain this position, sometimes to the point of upsetting some of our friends in the Freezone. Put it this way, if you go to an auditor recommended by this group and you don't get standard tech or the results you want, we want to know about it. In particular our CO wants to know about it - his email address is on our who is who page |
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4. I'm in a condition of Doubt about it all, can you help?
Well, join the club! Most of us have been there (apart from the ones who came directly into the Freezone). We could hardly have been in the official Church of Scientology and then got here without getting through this condition. Apart from the answers given on this page, we also have a page about the Doubt condition and another about Doubt and how it applies your current situation. |
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5. How can you deliver up to OT III if the material is secret?
Well, frankly, it isn't secret anymore. We respect the wishes of some folk at lower levels to *not* be exposed to this material ourselves, but you don't need to look far on the net to find many sites with all sorts of opinions about it that include quotes from the OT III materials. We carry a link on our links page to one site that shows a lot of the handwritten OT III material. Beware, if and when you read that stuff, as a lot of the sites are ones put up by critics and they don't really have a clue about basic Scientology, let alone upper level material such as OT III. Consequently they get themselves in a bit of frenzy about it all. Also beware that the material on the net is not complete. Even on the link we give it is not all the material you need to know. If you are Clear and need to progress in the Freezone, seek out an OT III or above auditor who is also at the very least Class VI and preferably Class VIII or IX. |
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6. Won't the Church of Scientology declare me an SP if I do OT III in the Freezone?
Probably. They didn't declare me yet :-( probably because I don't "give a fig" whether they do or don't. Seriously, you are likely to be in "hot water" in the Church of Scientology for even so much as reading this site (and we are one of the more friendly ones)! Unless your job depends upon being a Scientologist in "good standing", then don't worry. You'll make new friends here. And even if your job does depend on it, there are other jobs out there. |
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7. I've seen some weird stuff on the net about OT III, what can you say about that?
Yeah. Unfortunately so. There are two sensible answers to that however: a. The weird stuff comes from critics and the odd ex Church of Scientology person who was messed up on OT III or other advanced level. The critics, in general, don't really understand Scientology basics and are therefore hardly qualified to say anything much of any sense whatsoever about advanced materials such as OT III. The few that may have taken a basic course or two probably did so with the intent of "finding out about Scientology" rather than with an honest wish to learn and apply the materials and so probably didn't get a lot out of it because of that. And the ex Church of Scientology people who have been messed up - well they have my sympathies, but were probably either not ready for the levels they were put on or didn't have a competent case supervisor. Though it may be a more informed view than that of an ordinary critic, it would hardly be an unbiased view. For example, one of the more famous critics of the OT levels is Jon Atak. I knew Jon before he left the Church of Scientology in the early eighties and during the time he was doing the OT levels at St Hill. I actually liked the guy to the extent that I spent some of my free time with him and his lady friend Noella. He was intelligent and rarely took what he was told at face value which was a breath of fresh air to me. But he had a reputation of being "critical". Some people called it "1.1" a point with which I would find hard to fully agree, but he certainly sounded to me like he was badly unflat on Grade IV. And people who are dramatising outnesses with lower levels do tend to have a hard time of it (at least) on the OT levels. Furthermore, though I don't know all the details, I believe he mainly did the OT levels on the basis of cash paid in by a friend. While I do not condone the over charging of the Church of Scientology, it has long been known that people who do not make adequate exchange for the auditing they receive tend to not make it, or require much greater amounts of auditing. It is a question of whether the being believes that they deserve to make gains you see. b. Even where critics have had access to the full materials and honestly tried to look into it with a balanced view, they have almost certainly failed. Not because of any undesirable motive or lack of intelligence, but because of a fact that only a Scientologist who has honestly gone across the Bridge can see. That is the fact that one is primarily aware of the level you are on and maybe the next one or two above. Levels on the Bridge which you have already passed seem like "everyone knows - surely" and the ones which are too far ahead tend to seem unreal for the very simple reason they are unreal - at this point in time. That doesn't mean to say they won't become real for you when you're ready. Of course this requires trust and you can either choose to trust me or not - that is up to you. |
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8. Surely the volcano list in OT III is wrong?
This is starting to get into the so called "confidential" material of OT III. However, it won't harm you to know, if you don't already, that there is a volcano list as part of the OT III materials and that, from a strict geological perspective, the ones listed in the materials didn't exist 75 million years ago. Critics hold this up as some kind of "proof" that OT III is a load of bunkum. However, if you look into the subject of tectonic plate movement and how the land masses have changed over the years you will discover that a map of the world as it was 75 million years ago was essentially recognisable as a map of Earth today. Furthermore (and more importantly) the tectonic plate margins (the fault lines between the plates) were in essentially the same relative position as they are today. These plate margins are the sites where the majority of the planet's volcanic activity takes place. Consequently there would have been volcanos in similar locations. The above is not a proof that the OT III story is true. It does, however, tend to make a mockery of the supposed disproof. |
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9. The 75 million years ago date in the OT III materials must be wrong...
Some folk point out that the dinosaurs died out, supposedly, 65 million years ago, not 75 million. If the OT III story is true, then surely the dinosaurs would have died out at 75 million years ago, not 65 is the point being made by this. Well, two points here. One is that dating techniques can be somewhat inaccurate in the first place and to a margin as large as 10 million years on this time scale. The other is that if a large nuclear event took place at, for example, 75 million years ago, then the principal dating technique (radio carbon dating) would tend to be inaccurate in the direction of making actual dates seem more recent. And other dating techniques tend to rely on supposedly accurate radio carbon dates for known phenomena and events - in other words they tend to be relative to supposedly reliable radio carbon dates which aren't necessarily as reliable as one might suppose. Again, the above does not prove the OT III story. However it casts a major shadow over the supposed disproof. |
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10. I read the OT III materials and didn't drop dead like Hubbard implied...
Well, if that is so, good for you. Seriously. The OT III materials deal not just with first dynamic charge. It deals with relationships and higher numbered dynamics. In other words the charge is somewhat mutual. By one person running OT III, then it tends to destimulate it for all of us to a degree. In the 60s people ran OT3 with a medical doctor on standby - really. People were pretty knocked out. These days it is safer. But that doesn't mean to say that running the materials don't "pack a punch". Some folk at lower levels have found that their progress on the Bridge has been slowed by knowing too much too soon. It isn't necessarily that it will kill you, but it puts attention onto things that someone below the level of Clear really doesn't need to worry about. Also, people at lower levels tend to be somewhat protected by their lack of awareness in this regard. That is not a criticism. As covered above, it is just the matter tends to be unreal at that point in time. One might say that their innocence protects them. Indeed this is so true that people encountering so called confidential data, for the most part, tend to self censor it. Many Scientologists have read Hubbard's books early in their Scientology history and then re-read them later, particularly after a major level like OT III, with a routine comment being that it is as if they were reading a completely different book! To make a different analogy, if you were to put on a blind fold and then I told you that someone was about to swing a punch at you it is quite possible you wouldn't flinch or duck. Maybe you would if you thought I was a believable sort - maybe. But if you took the blind fold off, you wouldn't need me to tell you - you'd have ducked already. Well, going up the Bridge (and particularly with a relatively "heavy" level like OT III) is a bit like that. The levels which are too far ahead tend to behave as if you have a blind fold on. It is not a problem particularly. Just take the next step. |
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